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[Patricia Briel, Le Temps:] Do you condemn the negationist declarations of Bishop Williamson?
- [Fellay:] It does not belong to me to condemn them. I do not have the competence for this. But I deplore that a Bishop may have given the impression of involving the Fraternity with a view that is absolutely not ours.

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Note of the District Superior for Germany of the SSPX
As District Superior of the Society [of Saint Pius X] in Germany, I am very troubled by the words pronounced by Bishop Williamson here in this country.

The banalization of the genocide of the Jews by the Nazi regime and of its horror are unacceptable for us.

The persecution and murder of an incalculable number of Jews under the Third Reich touches us painfully and they also violate the Christian commandment of love for neighbor which does not distinguish ethnicities.

I must apologize for this behavior and dissociate myself from such a view.

Such dissociation is also necessary for us because the father of Archbishop Lefebvre died in a KZ [concentration camp] and because numerous Catholic priests lost their lives in Hitler's concentration camps.

Stuttgart, January 27, 2009

Father Franz Schmidberger

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Grão-Rabinato de Israel corta relações com o Vaticano
O Grão-Rabinato de Israel, a autoridade religiosa suprema do país, cortou as suas relações com o Vaticano, repudiando as declarações de um bispo lefebvriano, Richard Williamson, que negou em público a morte de seis milhões de judeus durante a II Guerra Mundial.

No passado sábado o Papa anunciou o levantamento da excomunhão de quatro bispos ordenados ilicitamente em 1988 pelo bispo Marcel Lefèbvre. O Vaticano explicou que Williamson não tinha sido excomungado por causa das suas opiniões políticas, pelo que não fazia sentido, canonicamente, não incluí-lo no levantamento da excomunhão.

“Sem um pedido de desculpas formal será muito difícil continuar o diálogo” afirmou um dos dirigentes do Grão-Rabinato.

Bento XVI garantiu hoje, no Vaticano, a sua “total e inquestionável solidariedade” com os judeus, considerando que o Holocausto deve ser para todos “um alerta contra o esquecimento, a negação ou o reducionismo”.

O porta-voz do Vaticano, Pe. Federico Lombardi, deixou votos de que o Rabinato de Israel aceite discutir as questões que levantou com a Comissão para as relações com o judaísmo, da Cúria Romana, “para que o diálogo da Igreja Católica com os judeus possa continuar com serenidade e de forma frutuosa”.

Fonte: Agência Ecclesia

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Dopo il saluto in polacco, il Papa ha aggiunto:
Prima dei saluti ai pellegrini italiani ho ancora tre comunicazioni da fare. La prima:

Ho appreso con gioia la notizia dell’elezione del metropolita Kirill a nuovo Patriarca di Mosca e di tutte le Russie. Invoco su di lui la luce dello Spirito Santo per un generoso servizio alla Chiesa ortodossa russa, affidandolo alla speciale protezione della Madre di Dio.

La seconda.

Nell’omelia pronunciata in occasione della solenne inaugurazione del mio Pontificato dicevo che è "esplicito" compito del Pastore "la chiamata all’unità", e commentando le parole evangeliche relative alla pesca miracolosa ho detto: "sebbene fossero così tanti i pesci, la rete non si strappò", proseguivo dopo queste parole evangeliche: "Ahimè, amato Signore, essa – la rete - ora si è strappata, vorremmo dire addolorati". E continuavo: "Ma no – non dobbiamo essere tristi! Rallegriamoci per la tua promessa che non delude e facciamo tutto il possibile per percorrere la via verso l’unità che tu hai promesso…. Non permettere, Signore, che la tua rete si strappi e aiutaci ad essere servitori dell’unità".

Proprio in adempimento di questo servizio all’unità, che qualifica in modo specifico il mio ministero di Successore di Pietro, ho deciso giorni fa di concedere la remissione della scomunica in cui erano incorsi i quattro Vescovi ordinati nel 1988 da Mons. Lefebvre senza mandato pontificio. Ho compiuto questo atto di paterna misericordia, perché ripetutamente questi Presuli mi hanno manifestato la loro viva sofferenza per la situazione in cui si erano venuti a trovare. Auspico che a questo mio gesto faccia seguito il sollecito impegno da parte loro di compiere gli ulteriori passi necessari per realizzare la piena comunione con la Chiesa, testimoniando così vera fedeltà e vero riconoscimento del magistero e dell’autorità del Papa e del Concilio Vaticano II.

La terza comunicazione.

In questi giorni nei quali ricordiamo la Shoah, mi ritornano alla memoria le immagini raccolte nelle mie ripetute visite ad Auschwitz, uno dei lager nei quali si è consumato l’eccidio efferato di milioni di ebrei, vittime innocenti di un cieco odio razziale e religioso. Mentre rinnovo con affetto l’espressione della mia piena e indiscutibile solidarietà con i nostri Fratelli destinatari della Prima Alleanza, auspico che la memoria della Shoah induca l’umanità a riflettere sulla imprevedibile potenza del male quando conquista il cuore dell’uomo. La Shoah sia per tutti monito contro l’oblio, contro la negazione o il riduzionismo, perché la violenza fatta contro un solo essere umano è violenza contro tutti. Nessun uomo è un’isola, ha scritto un noto poeta. La Shoah insegni specialmente sia alle vecchie sia alle nuove generazioni che solo il faticoso cammino dell’ascolto e del dialogo, dell’amore e del perdono conduce i popoli, le culture e le religioni del mondo all’auspicato traguardo della fraternità e della pace nella verità. Mai più la violenza umili la dignità dell’uomo!

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From the Holy Father at the end of today's General Audience:
Before greeting the Italian pilgrims, I still have three announcements.

The first: I have learned with great joy the election of Metropolitan Kirill as new Patriarch of Moscow and all the Russias. I invoke upon him the light of the Holy Ghost for a generous service to the Russian Orthodox Church, trusting him to the special protection of the Mother of God

The second.

In the homily pronounced on the occasion of the solemn inauguration of my Pontificate, I said that it is the "explicit" duty of the Pastor "the call to unity", and, commenting upon the Gospel words regarding the miraculous catch of fish, I said, "although there were so many, the net was not torn"; I continued after these Gospel words, "Alas, beloved Lord, with sorrow we must now acknowledge that it has been torn!". And I continued, "But no – we must not be sad! Let us rejoice because of your promise, which does not disappoint, and let us do all we can to pursue the path towards the unity you have promised. Let us remember it in our prayer to the Lord, as we plead with him: yes, Lord, remember your promise. Grant that we may be one flock and one shepherd! Do not allow your net to be torn, help us to be servants of unity!"

Precisely in the accomplishment of this service of unity, which qualifies, in a specific way, my ministry as Successor of Peter, I decided, a few days ago, to grant the remission of the excommunication in which the four bishops ordained by Archbishop Lefebvre in 1988, without pontifical mandate, had incurred. I fulfilled this act of fatherly mercy because those prelates repeatedly manifested to me their deep suffering for the situation in which they found themselves. I hope that this gesture of mine will be followed by the solicitous effort by them to accomplish the ulterior steps necessary to accomplish full communion with the Church, thus testifying true fidelity and true recognition of the Magisterium and of the authority of the Pope and of the Second Vatican Council.

The third announcement.

While I renew with affection the expression of my full and unquestionable solidarity with our brothers receivers of the First Covenant, I hope that the memory of the Shoah leads mankind to reflect on the unpredictable power of evil when it conquers the heart of man. May the Shoah be for all a warning against forgetfulness, against denial or reductionism, because the violence against a single human being is violence against all. No man is an island, a famous poet write. The Shoah particularly teaches, both old an the new generations, that only the tiresome path of listening and dialogue, of love and of forgiveness lead the peoples, the cultures, and the religions of the world to the hoped-for goal of fraternity and peace in truth. May violence never again crush the dignity of man!

Benedict XVI
General Audience
January 28, 2009

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Padre italiano diz que câmaras de gás serviam para 'desinfetar' judeus
Qui, 29 Jan, 02h15

ROMA (AFP) - O padre tradicionalista italiano Floriano Abrahamowicz afirmou nesta quinta-feira que as câmaras de gás dos campos de concentração nazistas serviam para 'desinfetar' os judeus, alimentando, assim, a polêmica entre a Santa Sé e a comunidade judaica mundial.

Em entrevista ao jornal La Tribuna de Treviso, o padre, chefe da região nordeste da Itália da comunidade ultraconservadora fundada por Marcel Lefebvre, a Fraternidade São Pio X, garante não acreditar que pessoas tenham sido mortas nas câmaras de gás.

"Sei que as câmaras de gás existiram pelo menos para desinfetar, mas não saberia dizer se causaram a morte ou não de pessoas porque não investiguei a fundo o assunto", declarou Abrahamowicz.

Esta entrevista foi concedida depois do escândalo que geraram as declarações antissemitas do bispo integrista inglês Richard Williamson, cuja excomunhão foi suspensa no sábado pelo Papa.

Em uma entrevista à tv sueca, o bispo inglês negou a existência do Holocausto e a morte de milhões de judeus durante a Segunda Guerra Mundial e assegurou que não existiram câmaras de gás na Alemanha nazista. Além disso, só teriam morrido de 200.000 a 300.000 judeus nos campos de concentração e não seis milhões de judeus.

"Williamson foi imprudente ao se pronunciar sobre assuntos técnicos", admitiu Floriano Abrahamowicz, que reconheceu ter sangue judeu por parte paterna.

"É verdadeiramente impossível para um católico ser antissemita", enfatizou o padre italiano.

"A crítica que se pode fazer sobre a tragédia do Holocausto é a supremacia que se dá sobre os outros genocídios. Se Williamson tivesse negado em suas declarações a tv o genocídio de um milhão e duzentos mil armênios por parte dos turcos, não acho que os jornais teriam dado tanta importância a suas declarações", comentou o religioso italiano.

Fonte: Yahoo! Brasil Notícias

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Italian Lefebvrite priest questions Holocaust
By JOHN L. ALLEN JR., NCR Staff
Published:
Jan. 29, 2009

Fr. Floriano AbrahamowiczFr. Floriano AbrahamowiczIn the wake of a global furor triggered by Pope Benedict XVI’s decision to lift the excommunication of four traditionalist Catholic bishops, including one who cast doubt on the Holocaust, another leader in the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X has questioned whether the Nazis used gas chambers for anything other than “disinfection,” and said that people who hold revisionist views on the Holocaust are not anti-Semites.

Fr. Floriano Abrahamowicz, a pastor and spokesperson for the Society of St. Pius X in northeastern Italy, also referred to Jews as “a people of deicide,” referring to the death of Christ, and suggested that the Jewish Holocaust has been “exalted” over what he called “other genocides,” such as the Allied bombing of German cities and the Israeli occupation of the Gaza strip.

On the other hand, Abrahamowicz insisted that the traditionalist movement founded by the late French Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre is not “anti-Semitic.” Among other things, Abrahamowicz said, he himself has Jewish roots on his father’s side.

The comments came in a Jan. 29 interview with the Italian newspaper La Tribuna di Treviso. (An NCR translation of the full text of the interview appears below.)

Related story: Pope Benedict's reconciliation efforts continue to fall short

Bishop Bernard Fellay, superior of the Society of St. Pius X, has apologized for the remarks of Bishop Richard Williamson, who in a recent interview with Swedish television claimed that the Nazis had not used gas chambers and estimated the number of Jewish deaths during World War II at no more than 300,000. Fellay has also barred Williamson from further comment. However, the Abrahamowicz interview suggests at least some degree of sympathy for Williamson’s views within the traditionalist group.

Reacting to protest in Italy over the Abrahamowicz interview, the Italian superior of the Society of St. Pius X, Fr. Davide Pagliarani, issued a press release saying that the society confirms Fellay’s earlier statement on Williamson and “reproves every single word inconsistent with it.”

Abrahamowicz is himself a well-known figure in Italy. In 2006, he gave a television interview in which he said that Erich Priebke, a German SS officer convicted of war crimes for a 1944 massacre in Rome, in which 335 Italian civilians were killed in reprisal for the deaths of 33 German soldiers, should not be seen as an “executioner” but rather a soldier who acted “with regret and a heavy heart.” In 2007, Abrahamowicz celebrated a Latin Mass for Italian politician Umberto Bossi, leader of the far-right Northern League party. Bossi and his party have sometimes been accused of xenophobia, particularly towards Muslim immigrants.

In 2008, after Cardinal Dionigi Tettamanzi of Milan had expressed support for Muslims seeking to open new mosques in Italy, Abrahamowicz said on Italian radio that Tettamanzi was an example of “infiltrators” attempting to “subvert the church from within.”

Abrahamowicz’s latest comments come just one day after Benedict XVI pledged his “full and indisputable solidarity” with the Jewish people, and recalled the deaths of “millions of Jews” in the Nazi concentration camps.

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La Tribuna di Treviso
Interview with Fr. Floriano Abrahamowicz, Jan. 29, 2009
By Laura Canzian

Fr. Floriano, is the Lefebvrite community anti-Semitic?

It’s truly impossible for a Catholic Christian to be anti-Semitic. I myself, on my father’s side, have Jewish roots. My last name even suggests this. This entire polemic regarding the statements of Bishop Williamson concerns the existence of gas chambers, and has been strongly instrumentalized for anti-Vatican purposes. Williamson simply expressed his doubts, and his ‘denial’ is not of the Holocaust – as newspapers have falsely said – but of the technical aspect of the gas chambers.

In your view, what’s the ‘technical aspect’ of the gas chambers?

Certainly, it was imprudent of Williamson to get into technical questions. In the famous interview, you can see that the journalist was obviously leading up to this specific aspect. But you have to understand that the theme of the Holocaust is situated on a much higher level than the question of knowing whether the victims died from gas or from other causes.

What do you think? About the gas chambers, I mean.

Truly, I don’t know. I know that gas chambers existed at least for disinfection, but I don’t know if they were used to kill people or not, because I haven’t studied the question. I know that, alongside the official version [of events], there’s another version based on the observations of the first Allied technicians who entered the camps.

Do you cast doubt on the number of victims of the Holocaust?

No, I don’t cast doubt on the numbers. There could have been more than six million victims. Even in the Jewish world, the number has a symbolic value. Pope Ratzinger says that even one person killed unjustly is too many, which is a way of saying that it’s equal to six million. To speak about numbers doesn’t change anything with respect to the essence of genocide, which is always an exaggeration.

An exaggeration? In what sense?

The number [of six million] is derived from what the head of the German Jewish community said to the Anglo-Americans shortly after the liberation. In the heat of the moment, he fired off a number. But how could he know? For him, the important point was that these victims were unjustly killed for religious motives. If there’s a criticism to be made of the way in which the tragedy of the Holocaust has been handled, it’s in giving it a supremacy with respect to other genocides.

To which other exterminations are you referring?

If Bishop Williamson had gone on television to deny the genocide of 1.2 million Armenians by the Turks, I don’t think that all the newspapers would have talked about his statements in the same terms they’re using now. Who has ever talked about the Anglo-American genocide in the bombing of German cities? Who has ever talked about Churchill, who ordered the phosphorous bombing of Dresden, where there were not only many civilians, but also many Allied soldiers? Who has spoken about the English air force, which, in the bombing of the cities, killed hundreds of thousands of civilians? And the Israelis certainly can’t tell me that the genocide they suffered from the Nazis is less serious than that of Gaza, simply because they’ve taken out a few thousand persons, while the Nazis took out six million. This is where I fault Judaism, which exasperates rather than honoring the victims of genocide decently. It’s as if there were only one genocide in history, that of the Jews during the Second World War. It seems like you can say anything you want about all the other exterminated peoples, but no one at the global level has spoken in the terms in which people are speaking today after the declarations of Bishop Williamson.

Why do so many people still cast doubt on the Shoah? Why is it a subject that still divides people so viscerally?

Because the whole history of humanity is marked by the people of Israel, who initially were the people of God, who then became the people of deicide, and who at the end of time will reconvert to Jesus Christ. Behind it all is a mysterious theological aspect, which is that of the people of God which rejected its Messiah and which still combats him. It’s a mystery of doctrine. Anti-Semitism is born from the illuminated liberal and Gnostic world. The church throughout history has always protected the Jews from pogroms, as one reads, for example, in Domenico Savino’s book on ritual homicide.

What do you think of [Holocaust] denial?

Denial is a false problem, because it focuses on methods and numbers and doesn’t address the substance of the problem. Those who have studied the technical data, and who have cast certain doubts on the versions that we find in history books, aren’t anti-Semites. It’s enough to recall that the first ones to find this data were also those who saved the Jews, meaning the Allies.

Do you want to offer a message to the Jewish community?

One message: As a Catholic Christian, adding that little Jewish blood that runs in my veins, I express the hope that the Jews will embrace Our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.

Fonte: National Catholic Reporter

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demis
o que é certo é que até hoje ninguém conseguiu provar que morreram 6 milhões de judeus...

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demis

p.s.-sou espirita mas não anda cá a dormir.

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Tilleul

Haja paciência. É a primeira vez que oiço falar num espírita racista.

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demis
sabia que houve uma conferencia em Teerão sobre o suposto holocausto e que participaram JUDEUS da Torah e esses mesmos Judeus acham o numero 6 milhões muito exagerado?

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Vaticano quer que bispo integrista retire declarações que proferiu sobre o Holocausto

O Vaticano ordenou ao bispo integrista Richard Williamson que retire “pública e inequivocamente” as declarações que proferiu sobre o Holocausto, sublinhando que esse passo é indispensável para que ser totalmente reintegrado na hierarquia católica.

Em comunicado, a secretaria de Estado Vaticano garante que o Papa desconhecia que a posição de Williamson quando, no final do mês passado, decidiu levantar a excomunhão do prelado, um dos quatro bispos da sociedade integrista Santo Pio X (criada pelo francês Marcel Lefebvre).

A decisão de Bento XVI gerou polémica, por ter ocorrido dias depois de uma televisão sueca transmitir uma entrevista com o bispo inglês, na qual ele pôs em causa a morte de seis milhões de judeus nas câmaras de gás, dizendo mesmo duvidar que este método de extermínio tenha sido usado pelos nazis.

Líderes religiosos e associações judaicas repudiaram a atitude do Vaticano – o Grande Rabinato de Israel, a autoridade religiosa máxima do país, cortou mesmo as relações com a Santa Sé –, o que levou o Papa a distanciar-se da posição assumida por Williamson, garantindo “total solidariedade com os irmãos judeus”.

O gesto foi considerado insuficiente e, ontem, foi a própria chanceler alemã, Ângela Merkel, a pedir ao Vaticano que esclarecesse se tolerava a negação do Holocausto.

O bispo Williamson já pediu desculpas pela controvérsia causada, mas não retirou, até ao momento, as polémicas causadas.

A nota divulgada hoje diz ainda que o “pleno reconhecimento do concílio Vaticano II e dos papas” que se lhe seguiram (não reconhecidos por Lefebvre) é uma “condição indispensável a um futuro reconhecimento” da Sociedade S. Pio X.

Fonte: [ultimahora.publico.clix.pt]